
THE CLUB OF ROME PODCAST
The Club of Rome Podcast features conversations with thought leaders and changemakers on the mindshifts and policy solutions needed to address the complex challenges facing humanity and the planet today. Each episode explores transformative ideas and systemic approaches to sustainability, inequality, and global governance. The podcast serves as a platform for discussing how societies can adapt and thrive in an increasingly interconnected world. Listeners can expect in-depth discussions on topics ranging from climate change to economic reform, all aimed at inspiring positive change.
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Africa's AI crossroads with Yemi Keri
While the world debates artificial intelligence's implications for economies and everyday life, one question is too often overlooked: what does the AI revolution mean for Africa? In this episode, Till Kellerhoff, director for content and programmes at the Club of Rome, speaks with Yemi Keri, a technology executive, impact investor and ecosystem builder and member of the Club of Rome with over two

From the ground up: Lessons in locally-led solutions with Runa Khan
What does it take to reach the world's most marginalised communities - not just with aid, but with dignity? In this episode of the Club of Rome Podcast, host Nolita Mvunelo speaks with Runa Khan, member of the Club of Rome and founder of Friendship, an international social purpose organisation that has been working on the river islands and coastal chars of Bangladesh since 2002. In 2025, Friendshi
Law and the future of capitalism with Katharina Pistor
What if the key to transforming capitalism lies in the law? In this episode, we speak with Katharina Pistor, Professor of Comparative Law at Columbia University, member of the Club of Rome and author of The Law of Capitalism and How to Transform It, about the legal foundations that underpin our economic system, and how they might be reimagined.
Katharina argues that capitalism is not a free marke
Inequality, power and the fight for a fairer world with Jayati Ghosh
Why have a decade of global commitments failed to deliver a fairer world, and what would it actually take to build one?
In this episode of The Club of Rome Podcast, Till Kellerhoff speaks with Jayati Ghosh, economist, member of The Club of Rome and professor at the University of Massachusetts Amherst, about why the promise of 2015 — the SDGs, the Paris Agreement, a moment of collective ambition —
Rethinking peace: Beyond the absence of war with Paul Shrivastava and Nolita Mvunelo
Why are current peace frameworks struggling to meet today’s complex challenges and what would it take to create genuine security in the 21st Century?
In this episode of The Club of Rome Podcast, Nolita Mvunelo speaks with Paul Shrivastava, co-president of The Club of Rome about why traditional peace frameworks are ill-equipped to address the deeper threats emerging from ecological breakdown, widen
Collapse & renewal: Civilisation at the brink of transformation with Nafeez Ahmed, Ginie Servant-Miklos & Till Kellerhoff
As climate chaos, political polarisation and collapsing trust shake the foundations of society, we stand at a turning point. These overlapping crises are not just signs of collapse but symptoms of a deeper breakdown, a system that puts profit before people, competition before community and short-term gain before the planet we share.
In this episode of The Club of Rome Podcast, host Till Kellerhoff
Africa's war on misinformation with Abdullahi Alim and Nolita Mvunelo
Africa is on the frontline of a fast-moving battle against digital misinformation, one with profound effects for politics, trust and daily life.
In this episode of We Kinda Need a Revolution, host Nolita Mvunelo talks to Abdullahi Alim, award-winning economist and CEO of the Africa Future Fund, about how social media, YouTube rumours, deepfakes and adversarial AI are reshaping the continent, often
Building a wellbeing economy in turbulent times with Katherine Trebeck and Till Kellerhoff
Why does the vision of a wellbeing economy remain both urgently needed and frustratingly out of reach?
In this episode of The Club of Rome Podcast, Till Kellerhoff speaks with political economist and Wellbeing Economy Alliance co-founder Katherine Trebeck to unpack this dilemma. As overlapping global crises continue to shake confidence in our current economic model, they discuss the promise and
Can feminism be African? With Minna Salami and Nolita Mvunelo
What does freedom look like for African women in a world shaped by crisis, colonial legacies, and patriarchy? How does African feminism take shape across the continent, from urban political centres to rural communities? And is feminism rooted in African values, or has it too often been misrepresented and misunderstood?
In this episode Nolita Mvunelo sits down with Minna Salami, feminist author an
Women silencing the guns with Aya Chebbi and Nolita Mvunelo
Africa’s adult population consists of three generations: the independence generation that lived through colonial rule and subsequent liberation, the multiparty system generation, and the younger generations with the complex challenge of ensuring peace, prosperity, and climate resilience within one generation.
In this episode, Nolita Mvunelo is joined by Aya Chebbi, Founder of the Nala Feminist Col
From financing change to changing finance with Peter Blom and Till Kellerhoff
From Financing Change to Changing Finance
Today’s financial system extracts value from natural, human, and social capital while increasing the gap between rich and poor. This has significantly shifted the interaction between financial and economic systems from ‘finance supporting the economy’ to ‘the economy supporting finance’.
In this episode, Till Kellerhoff, Program Director at The Club of Rom

Music, film and authenticity for social change with Sishii and Nolita Mvunelo
Music, art, and media have always played powerful roles in social movements that created long-lasting societal change. Will the 21st century be any different? How can we inspire a generation to liberate their future actively?
In this episode, Nolita Mvunelo is joined by Sishii, an award-winning singer and activist. Together, they dive into the role of art and music in inspiring young Africans to m
What needs to change to ensure climate action? Sandrine Dixson-Declève, Laurence Tubiana and Philippa Nuttall
Heatwaves and floods dominated the headlines in the summer of 2024. This lived reality of climate change is taking place against a backdrop of political shifts as far-right parties across Europe win shares of the vote that would have been unimaginable only a few years ago.
To uncover what is happening and explore what campaigners, politicians and businesses can do to ensure climate action in t
Universal Basic Dividend: A path to economic justice with Sarath Davala, Ken Webster and Till Kellerhoff
As the world faces increasing inequality and environmental degradation, the Universal Basic Dividend (UBD) emerges as a promising idea for a more equitable and sustainable economic system. UBD proposes that the wealth generated from our shared resources, such as land, air and water, should benefit everyone, not just a few.
In this episode, Till Kellerhoff is joined by Ken Webster and Sarath Daval

Climate crises and public health in Africa with Saad Uakkas and Nolita Mvunelo
The impacts of extreme weather events and climate crises are threatening many of the hard-won advancements in public health infrastructure across African countries.
In this episode of the special series ‘We Kinda Need a Revolution’, host Nolita Mvunelo is joined by Saad Uakkas, a medical doctor and executive chair of the African Youth Initiative on Climate Change. They discuss the profound effects

Building climate resilience with vulnerable city dwellers with Sheela Patel and Philippa Nuttall
1 billion urban citizens live in informal settlements like slums and shanty towns, vulnerable to the most extreme impacts of climate change - flooding, prolonged drought and unprecedented heatwaves. India is in the eye of this storm — in May 2024, places in northern India, including Delhi, were suffering under temperatures as high as 50C, with those experiencing poverty most affected.
In this epis
African self-liberation and new narratives of hope with Mamphela Ramphele and Nolita Mvunelo
Almost thirty years after the end of apartheid, Black South Africans still fight for African liberation from colonial narratives. While previous generations struggled to end apartheid, younger generations now face the task of reimagining themselves, their communities, and the world. Mamphela Ramphele, The Club of Rome co-president and Nolita Mvunelo, The Club of Rome program manager discuss the ne
Empowering female leadership in times of global challenges
This episode explores the transformative potential of female leadership. Our expert guests, Sharan Burrow, Sylvia Mukasa and Anna Rathmann delve into the nuanced aspects of what female leadership truly means in times of unprecedented global challenges, from tackling environmental crises to addressing social inequalities and the role of businesses.
This podcast is a cooperation between The Club o
David Collste - Research and strategies for accelerated systems-change - Earth4All Series
In this episode, David Collste,researcher and modeller at the Stockholm Resilience Centre talks about the Earth4All framework's research and strategies. Winner of the Donella Meadows Prize 2023, David's work focuses on the future of human development in the Anthropocene.
This is part of series of interviews profiling The Earth4All: an international initiative convened by The Club of Rome, the PI
The Club of Rome’s Nolita Mvunelo: Panic at the Disco, Pink Elephants and Pluralism
Nolita Mvunelo, Program Manager at the Club of Rome, and co-lead of The 50 Percent, talks to The Aspect about the importance of integrating multiple future visions and particularly the views of young people who make up half the world's population.
First published on The Aspect
Hunter Lovins - Five tranformations for a sustainable future - Earth4All Series
In this episode, Hunter Lovins member of The Club of Rome, Earth4All contributor and the founder of Natural Capitalism Solutions, gives a personal insight into the five extraordinary turnarounds for a sustainable future outlined in Earth for All: A Survival Guide for Humanity.
This is part of series of interviews profiling The Earth4All: an international initiative convened by The Club of Rome, t
Owen Gaffney: Building a sustainable future through climate action and systems change
In this episode, Owen Gaffney, lead author of Earth for All: A Survival Guide for Humanity, talks about building a sustainable future through climate action and systems change.
Owen shares valuable insights on the urgency of climate action, the importance of systems change, and the role of collaboration in tackling these complex issues.
First published on Global Partners for Development.
Anders Wijkman - The need for transformation not incrementalism- Earth4All series
In this episode Anders Wijkman, Honorary President of The Club of Rome and Chair of the Governing Board of Climate-KIC talks to The Rhona Morrell Podcast about the urgent need for transformation not incrementalism and for investment in green economies and global equity.
This is part of series of interviews profiling The Earth4All: an international initiative convened by The Club of Rome, the PIK
Jayati Ghosh: What Earth4All means for most of the world’s people.
In this episode, Jayati Ghosh, a co-author of ‘Earth for All’, outlines how reducing inequality is the key to a just transition towards a greener economy. The talk is moderated by Roberto Pasqualino from the University of Cambridge.
This was part of the 50th Anniversary of ‘The Limits to Growth’ Seminar Series, hosted by the Centre for Environment, Energy and Natural Resource Governance (CEENRG)
Roberto Pasqualino - From World3 to modelling financial implications of global energy crisis
In this episode, Roberto Pasqualino, a researcher at the University of Cambridge shares how his work on the Economic Risk Resources and Environment model extends ‘The Limits to Growth’ with new insights relative to the dynamics of resource prices, employment, and general economic downturn. The talk is moderated by Sergey Kolesnikov from the University of Cambridge.
This was part of the 50th Annive
Mamphela Ramphele - Limits to Growth or Limits and Beyond?
In this episode, Mamphela Ramphele, Club of Rome co-president and a co-author of ‘Limits and Beyond’, talks about the importance of including relational, cultural, and spiritual factors in addressing planetary emergencies. The talk is moderated by Roberto Pasqualino from the University of Cambridge.
This was part of the 50th Anniversary of ‘The Limits to Growth’ Seminar Series, hosted by the Centr
Ugo Bardi - The Limits to Growth 50 years later. The role of models in studying the future.
In this episode, Ugo Bardi, Club of Rome member and the editor of ‘Limits and Beyond’, discusses the role of models as tools to examine the future including the world models of ‘The Limits to Growth’. The talk is moderated by Roberto Pasqualino from the University of Cambridge.
This was part of the 50th Anniversary of ‘The Limits to Growth’ Seminar Series, hosted by the Centre for Environment, Ene
Julia Kim - Beyond GDP, Beyond Numbers: Bhutan’s Journey Towards Gross National Happiness
In this episode, Julia Kim, a co-author to ‘Limits and Beyond’ shares the lessons from Bhutan’s national-level experiment of Gross National Happiness and explores the applications of wellbeing economics across the globe. The talk is moderated by Roberto Pasqualino from the University of Cambridge.
This was part of the 50th Anniversary of ‘The Limits to Growth’ Seminar Series, hosted by the Centre
Gaya Herrington - I did a data comparison on the world model that predicted collapse.
In this episode, Gaya Herrington, a contributor to ‘Earth for All’ discusses the methods and findings of her empirical data comparison of the scenarios predicted in ‘The Limits to Growth’, and shares her conclusions on what the 50-year-old model teaches us today about a way forward. The talk is moderated by Roberto Pasqualino from the University of Cambridge.
This was part of the 50th Anniversar
Jørgen Randers - From “The Limits to Growth” to “Earth for All” – the long global perspective
In this episode, Club of Rome member Jørgen Randers talks about the long global perspective of sustainability since the publication of ‘The Limits to Growth’ through ‘Earth for All’ and beyond. The talk is moderated by Roberto Pasqualino from the University of Cambridge.
This was part of the 50th Anniversary of ‘The Limits to Growth’ Seminar Series, hosted by the Centre for Environment, Energy and
What has the EU learned & where do we go from here? Part 2
In this episode, Club of Rome member Maja Goepel is in discussion with MEP Philippe Lamberts and MEP Aurore Lalucq on how to shift to a wellbeing economy in times of crises through policy implementation at the EU and member state levels.
What has the EU learned & where do we go from here? Part 1
This episode discusses the growing thinking within EU institutions and across Member States on how to shift to a wellbeing economy in times of crisis through policy implementation at the EU and Member State levels. With Dennis Meadows, Kate Raworth, Ida Kubiszweski, Tim Jackson and Robert Costanza.
Silo Solving - Transformational Economics, Ecology, & Equality
In this guest pairing, a historian of Thomas Paine (Gary Berton) and a Co-President of The Club of Rome + Project Lead for Earth4All (Sandrine Dixson-Declève) meet for the first time to converse with the Silo Solving host (Danelle Marqui Brown), on the topic of “Transformational Economics, Ecology, & Equality.”
First published on Silo Solving

Will the world end its addiction to growth?
50 years after The Limits to Growth we consider the impact of the report and what is happening to create a new social and economic paradigm that will help the global population live in tune with the environment.
The New Statesman‘s environment editor, Philippa Nuttall, is joined in Brussels by Kate Raworth, the economist who created the concept of “Doughnut Economics”; Tim Jackson, a British econo

The Club of Rome’s Till Kellerhoff: Earth4All and The Limits to Growth
In this episode, Till Kellerhoff, Program Director of the Club of Rome and Coordinator & National Engagement Lead of the Earth4All initiative talks to Rik's mind podcast.
As the United States is still caught in the throes of denial of climate change and “doom & gloom” reigns, Rik and Till discuss how the latest report to The Club of Rome - Earth4All is trying to change the narrative.
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Limits and Beyond
All speakers in this event are coauthors of the book Limits and Beyond. They share their reflections on the relevance of the seminal report The Limits to Growth for the world of today and tomorrow.
Looking back five decades later, what did the book mean at the time, what happened next, what did we do and not do, what did we learn and not learn, and what happens now and in the future?

Earth for All: A Survival Guide for Humanity
50 years after the groundbreaking The Limits to Growth report, a new book Earth For All details five turnarounds that are the minimum requirements for our societies to build economies that support wellbeing for all, whilst protecting the planet. The project brings together scientists and economists to show that it is possible to upgrade our economics and transform our societies with immediate, fo
Living within Limits
The Limits to Growth modeled our planet’s interconnected systems and warned that if growth trends in population, industrialisation, resource use and pollution continued unchanged, we would reach and overshoot the carrying capacity of the Earth in the 21st century. We are now crossing tipping points and overloading our planet. Author Dennis Meadows, economist Jayati Ghosh, activist Luisa Neubauer,
The Limits to Growth, 50 years later with Jorgen Randers
Earth For All is an update to the landmark 1972 book - The Limits to Growth - that warned of our unsustainable growth. Jorgen Randers, Club of Rome member and author of both titles, tells Eco-Business what is at stake if we don't fix our broken economic system.
This podcast was produced and first published by Eco-Business.
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